Tuesday, January 24, 2012

MONUMENT OR JUSTIFIED DEVELOPMENT?

What do you, the reader, think of the proposed river front development?

If Louisville has come up short in their TIF area on money to pay for the YUM Center, what makes New Albany sure (SURE) they will have enough TIF income to pay for another Parking Garage?

We have to agree with others when it was stated with Jeff Malysz staying on in government guaranteed this project was going forward.

We say NO.  The "other" parking garage still owes EDIT over $3 million.  We are still in debt with the one only city employees use except at Harvest.

Is it a monument, or a good project?

211 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Rather than fighting amongst ourselves, we need to organize with first a letter campaign to the Mayor and then a protest in front of the City Cty Bldg.

Anonymous said...

Yep. That's exactly what we need to do. Let's meet at BSB.6 o'clock. Tonight.

Anonymous said...

burn an effigy of carl gahan

Anonymous said...

Only if there is free beer, 12:07.

Anonymous said...

rock on bro, bud light

Anonymous said...

dont forget to mark the protest site with one of the idiotic forks, fork you Malysz!

Anonymous said...

speaking of forks, are they cooking the books now that they have that expert in the controllers office? maybe they are cooking some big italian meals instead

Anonymous said...

thatsa one big meatball

Anonymous said...

no more free sidewalks

Anonymous said...

Like Larry K?????

Anonymous said...

Nice language; you're really helping move this debate along.

Anonymous said...

Nice to see there is not hate/bullies on this blog

Anonymous said...

This issue needs all of our attention. Anything else is just BS. Thanks.

Blog Administrator

Anonymous said...

I think anonymous posts are okay as long as people don't write stupid stuff like what's on here today. What's the matter with you people?

Anonymous said...

whats the matter with this mayor is the better question

Anonymous said...

The better question is why would the blog admin leave a racial comment on here but remove a comment about someone being hip?

Anonymous said...

the better question is why does the same old crooked politics continue on the third floor, its time for the state to get involved

Anonymous said...

I've been told not to read the comments here but I feel inclined to respond. All of you on here are questioning the job we have done so far. We are new to this and will improve. Anyway, I feel confident that only 5 or 6 people are responsible for all of the comments on all city blogs as well as the Tribune site. I'm not really worried.

Anonymous said...

That's what you don't get there are so many citizens in New Albany that are so disgusted. You can not improve or improve on what lying better and not getting caught.

Anonymous said...

Can we get back on the topic? River View? I am not in favor.

Anonymous said...

7:07

We appreciate your taking the time to respond to comments about the new administration.

We also recognize the platform this administration was elected upon (promises made, i.e., not more Malysz, audit of the books through cdbg money as authorized by State Bd of Accts., all elected upon our backs.

The money wasted by this City (taxpayers money) has been going on for generations. You need to understand we do not and can not afford more debt, such as the losing project River View.

There are a lot of businesses outside and inside the YUM center in Louisville. Yet, they do not have enough TIF money to pay the bills (bonds). What to do, what to do.

Now, I'm pretty damn certain we will not be able to collect enough TIF funds to pay for any part of this proposed project.

We voted for CHANGE and we friggin meant it. Only when we call for a letter campaign to start things off and threaten to march on the square do you feel compelled to put something out here.

Again, thanks for doing that. It allowed me to clear my feelings.

Anonymous said...

got your spin doctors posting on here Gahan? Face it, you are history, you managed to do in 30 days what it took England to do in 1 year, ensure your defeat next time, Yep youre new at this all right, should have stayed in the veneer business

Anonymous said...

My comment was not meant to be racist. I am not a racist person. The fact of the matter is that the NAACP IS making decisions for the Mayor. I feel that the best man for the job should be based his qualifications, not the color of his skin. Watch the next couple of promotions that are given, especially for police and fire and my point will be made. No 7:07 there are not just 5 or 6 people on this blog. The Mayor promised change, which we have not seen and the disgusted citizen of New Albany are tired and getting involved.

Anonymous said...

Dont be too Hard on the mayor people, the city got two mayors for the price of 1: Carl Gahan and Jeff Malysz, now thats already a bold new leadership move they promised.

Anonymous said...

Gahan's first hire for a police officer,resident of Jeffersonville! Good job mayor, did the NAACP make the choice for you too

Anonymous said...

I know there are more than 5 or 6 people on here because I know at least ten or twelve of the people posting and I recognize their writing too. That said, I still think we owe Mayor Gahan the gift of time to get started and to prove he's not in cahoots with Doug England and gang. Also, it is my opinion that we can't afford the parking garage.

Anonymous said...

I feel most of us were more than willing to give him the gift of time. I sure was. I was behind him 220%. But, once he kept Malysz, I have no more time for him. Harsh maybe, but we've seen all we care to see of Malysz. If you only knew how many downtown businesses and individuals who can not stand this guy it would make your head swim. Are you (or Gahan) that out of touch with the voters and local business and people? Wish I could be kinder but can't. HE PROMISED. His word has to stand for something.

Anonymous said...

I feel most of us were more than willing to give him the gift of time. I sure was. I was behind him 220%. But, once he kept Malysz, I have no more time for him. Harsh maybe, but we've seen all we care to see of Malysz. If you only knew how many downtown businesses and individuals who can not stand this guy it would make your head swim. Are you (or Gahan) that out of touch with the voters and local business and people? Wish I could be kinder but can't. HE PROMISED. His word has to stand for something.

Anonymous said...

amen he has had enough time to prove he's a liar. he said whatever he had to say to get elected and now his true colrs are showing. Throw the bum out in 4 years. If he truly cared about the city he would just resign, how do you sleep at night mayor? Your priest at our lady will be seeing you in confession a lot during the next 4 years

Anonymous said...

gahan should have stuck with selling christmas

Anonymous said...

Can't wait to see what the NAACP has in store for the fire department, who's it going to be Gahan? we saw what you did for them on the police dept.

Anonymous said...

uncle tom gahan

Anonymous said...

Could it possibly be Toran's son? I know he was on your committee, he has a strong affiliation with the NAACP, and I'm sure you owe him something. Am I right, Gahan? We are watching!

Anonymous said...

sounds like its that old political hack jerry stephensons son from the old hoosier vally days

Anonymous said...

gahan's trying to build a rainbow coalition, problem is there aint no pot of gold at the end of his rainbow, only fools gold

Anonymous said...

Here's one for you readers.

A certain taxpayer met with Gahan today stated he (Gahan) never promised to get rid of Carl or Shane. Can you believe that lying SOB? Get ready Jeff your about to feel the rath of "We The People!"

I am also against the six million dollar stormwater bond and the 15 million dollar parking garage.

Anonymous said...

Gahan is so done you can stick a fork in him and I'm not talking about them painted ones either.

Anonymous said...

you mean steve burks

Anonymous said...

We're doing our best. Things will improve. We haven't lied to anybody. Those who think we have are wrong.

Anonymous said...

What about Steve Burks?

Anonymous said...

Can you say you were with him 24 hrs a day!!! No you can't so your the third party. Gahan had 60 days to prepare before he took office. Did anyone see him in the building trying to learn what was going on. I did not and as a employee the 8 years he was on the council he knew very
Little. It is sure showing up now. Being in government 8 years should give you significant time to learn what is going on. It looks like he would get a F in that. Isn't that how your teacher supporters grade.

Anonymous said...

7:27 I beg to differ, this new administration has cowardly bowed down to England and the democrat party. Gahan lied several times he said the same thing to so many people (voters) democrat and republicans. He's upset because it leaked out his only concern is how it leaked instead of what England did.
Shame on you Jeff!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Did he actually think we wouldn't find out?

Geez Louise, what a bunch of moron.

Anonymous said...

go sell some christmas trees gahan, of course the way you deceive people you would tell someone they are authentic carolina fraser firs and they are really artificial walmarts.

thats right folks your mayor sold christmas trees in a previous life

Anonymous said...

whats next gahan, try to find a way to get Bob Lane out and then hand the job to your maker Dougie

Anonymous said...

maybe matt denison ought to run against gahan next time

Anonymous said...

Congrats to Doug & Carl for winning community service awards from DNA. Well deserved and well done, gentlemen!

Anonymous said...

doug and carl ought to get community disservice awards, enshrined in the wall of shame

Anonymous said...

Matt Dennison ran the Stumler campaign. They spent about four times what Gahan did. How did that end up?

Anonymous said...

oh so thats why carl gahan got rid of Dennison, a little pay back? well in 4 years the whole city is paying back Gahan, hope you didnt sell off your veneer business tree man

Anonymous said...

and the only reason gahan won the primary is because england backed stumler, now gahan is proving he is worse than England

Anonymous said...

Yeah --marketing firm-80k-backing of incumbent mayor-chiefs and he still could not get the job done--some resume.

Anonymous said...

Just calm down now, Tim. Calm down.

Anonymous said...

Matt Dennison was offered a job with the current administration.

He refused rather rudely.

That's why he was let go.

Anonymous said...

really? well I hear he was told he was out by a letter on his desk chair and he didnt even see it coming, thats how you thugs want to spin it? maybe the attorney general will terminate Gahan the same way

Anonymous said...

maybe Matt ought to consider a wrongful termination suit, oh that's right he was offered a job and refused thats why he got his termination letter on his chair. If he refused a job wouldnt he just have submitted a resignation letter?

Our Lady is open for confessions on Saturdays

Anonymous said...

let me explain it to you a different way:

You work for "Company X" and they bring in a new boss. That boss has been charged with changing the direction of the company to improve profits. He evaluates the current help and then makes some tough choices. He decides that he thinks things would be better if you had a different job than the one you are currently at. When he tries to reassign you and give you the new position you tell him where to stick the new job.

Do you expect that you might receive a notice of termination?

I would

Anonymous said...

and you know thats exactly what dennison said

Anonymous said...

at least with Doug England you knew what was coming but with gahan its 11th hour behind closed doors backstabbing

shame on you gahan, you sure you werent schooled in politics by Richard Daly?

Anonymous said...

Gahan schooled oh boy. Gahan loves to hold grudges and will pay you back at whatever costs. About Matt Dennison he was not offered a position he was asked about flood control and Matt made a statement to Gahan why did he feel compelled to replace Ronnie Grainger and pit them against one another which they have been friends and worked very closely together. Respecting one another Matt and Ronnie!
Matt then was told by Gahan they he would be back in touch with him on that job. Then matt received his dear John letter.
It does matter how things were handled I don't care if you are the mayor or not. Just meet face to face he talked to him face to face and just tell him you are going in a different direction.
As far as hatchet man Stan Robinson your numbered and done.

Anonymous said...

This is your priest Jeffy boy, be sure and stock up on more rosaries youre going to need them

Anonymous said...

Gahan got rid of Dennison so he could apply his salary to his sidekick's salary Jeff Malysz

Anonymous said...

Gahan's wife is a principal married to a guy without principles

Anonymous said...

Grainger backed the wrong candidate so he was gone. Matt did too. Hell that dumbass asked for a promotion. He has a lot of connections from the work he did I am sure doug or stumler can find him some work. I mean if he was so goddamned valuable it should not be a problem.

Anonymous said...

Malysz backed Stumler and so did shane gibson so why are they still on the scene, oh yeh so did Mickey thompson. you dont squat spin doctor

Anonymous said...

Jeff Gahan is way in over his head. Just watch and see how the council fights with him on issues. BTW, how do you appropriate any kind of funds when you have NO idea how much you have in the bank?

Please put me down for a new parking garage too. I need the money to back up a loan so I can sue the pants off this city for mismanaging my money.

Also, should Mrs. Baird be sitting on the council she rents and does not own a home. How can she rep. you or I?

Anonymous said...

5:51, why should that matter whether she rents or owns?

Anonymous said...

My oh my. What a fight.

Anonymous said...

gahan cut deals with england cronies thats why most of his thugs still have jobs. The ones he got rid of like Matt Denison didnt play ole dougie games thats why he was cowardly let go, yes real leadership you showed there gahan

Anonymous said...

this is your priest jeffy boy, I will be expecting you today for confession, I have a special room set up just for you so you wont hold up the line with all your confessions

Anonymous said...

For that matter juliot, knight, whitlow, and purnell (sp?) ALL supported stumler. Gahan you and your pony tailed side kick are no match for this city!

Anonymous said...

damn right they did, dont forget missy sarksinson and all the other quasi clerks, truth is once their man stumler lost they acted like gahan was the second coming. A guy like Denison would make gahan look bad because he worked hard and knew about all the wastes and dirty deals

Anonymous said...

did you go to confession today Mayor?

Anonymous said...

dont forget the italian meatball in the controllers office was backing stumler under orders from momma

Anonymous said...

That's a big italian meat ball too...

Anonymous said...

What IS all this crap on here? Is anyone going to speak seriously and not write crap about gossip and made up rumors? You're a bunch of bores.

Fed Up said...

6:53 we live in a very corrupt city. We're right behind Gary, Indiana. We have a new mayor who lied and is way in over his head. We had a previous mayor whose only goal in four year was to take credit for other peoples hard work. So please tell me where this is all crap?

The citizens of the City of New Albany have been crapped on for the last eight years. Now "we're mad as hell" and were not going to take it anymore.

Bores? Sit back you're about to see some real fireworks.

Anonymous said...

Real fireworks? In all the time I've read this blog, all I see is the same group complaining and threatening that 'there's a secret', or 'something's gonna come out and you all will see...' And now, 'there's going to be fireworks?' Please.

You are a bunch of malcontents with nothing better to do than complain about having no control, claiming that the world lies to you constantly, and begrudging everyone else their successes.

Don't give me a bunch of bull about who you think I am or am not, either. It doesn't matter. There are a few bright individuals on here from time to time- some who agree with you, some who are vastly different- but for the most part, I see a bunch of gossipy whiners who should be attending confession themselves. Gossip is worthy of confession, folks, and you're doing plenty of it.

Anonymous said...

Well Roger I guess you just called yourself out!!!!

Anonymous said...

I think I my be able to get insurance by the executive order. Here we come Gahan!

Anonymous said...

Where is the salary ordinance Gaan for the council to approve?

Anonymous said...

Stan do you not have a female on the hook right now ? I have not seen you at koerbers jewelry lately. I bet Caesar is mad at you for not using him.

Anonymous said...

Mrs.Baird does not have to own a home just the assessor does to take office.

Anonymous said...

9:08, I wish I'd said that.

Anonymous said...

who cares about Baird, she's a mental lightweight anyway, just vote her out in 4 years since she will ruberstamp Mayor Jeff Lieagain

Anonymous said...

On Bairds Voices of the people blog:

http://newvoiceofthepeople.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...
Shirley,

You said that if you were elected to council you would go over the budget line by line and cut costs. Well, what have you found so far and what line of the budget are you on now? What costs have you found to cut?

January 25, 2012 7:22 PM

shirley baird said...
We have not started on the 2012 budget yet but I intend to go over the budget line by line as promised.

January 26, 2012 10:54 PM


HELLO BAIRD! 2012 BUDGET PASSED BY COUNCIL IN 2011. START LOOKING AS YOU PROMISED AND LET US KNOW WHAT COST YOU FEEL CAN AND SHOULD BE CUT!

Anonymous said...

Baird's a phony, looks like the priest at St Marys and Our lady will be busy taking "jeff lieagains" confessions and "surely i will lie to you Baird"

Anonymous said...

Confessions? In all the time I've read this blog, all I see is the same group complaining and threatening that 'there's a secret', or 'something's gonna come out and you all will see...' And now, 'there's going to be fireworks?' Please.

You are a bunch of malcontents with nothing better to do than complain about having no control, claiming that the world lies to you constantly, and begrudging everyone else their successes.

Don't give me a bunch of bull about who you think I am or am not, either. It doesn't matter. There are a few bright individuals on here from time to time- some who agree with you, some who are vastly different- but for the most part, I see a bunch of gossipy whiners who should be attending confession themselves. Gossip is worthy of confession, folks, and you're doing plenty of it.

Anonymous said...

and which gahan official is this spouting off? you guys are so 30 days ago in the spirit of the new
4g: Gahans greedy gang goons

Anonymous said...

I'm not any Gahan official.

Signing off this blog for good. If you can't have an adult conversation, no reason to be on here.

Anonymous said...

cant take the heat get out of the kitchen, carl or jeff or whoever or gahan clone lol.

Anonymous said...

Wow....thank goodness he has signed off the blog for good.


LOL, that low life looser will be back here in no time. This blog is his life.

Anonymous said...

Looser? How loose is it?

Anonymous said...

I just saw Carl M. on Vinc. Street. Maybe he forgot he doesn't run this city anymore or does he? See, the poor guy can't find a real job sexual harrassment can hurt future employment right... Carl?

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many white envelopes Jeff has already got? From what I am hearing he's try to do 'damage control' over this healthcare debackle. Wait until this story breaks in the newa to taxpayers.
Anyone seen the Exective Order yet?

Anonymous said...

Shirley needs to think for herself, she is not John Gonder who has an informed blog. What she doesn't get her and Gonder got elected to keep England off the council. I think it's called winning by default.

Anonymous said...

freedom of information act, they cant keep the executive order hidden its a public record. If the current mayor refuses to rescind an illegal act of the outgoing mayor it is an impeachable offense, time for the Indiana attny general to go after this.

How stupid are you gahan?

Anonymous said...

wow carl was up on sexual harassment before? what did he do make a pass at Jerry Abramson when he worked for the City of Louisville? I just heard he was fired for incompetence

Anonymous said...

with gonder and baird on the council, you might as well have england they are just like england with different last names

Anonymous said...

Sounds to me like there's one person putting all kinds of posts on here. Erika? That you?

Love,
Roger

Anonymous said...

put your executive order in a hiding place where nobody goes, put it in your pantry with your cupcakes, laugh about shout about it what you got to choose every way you look at it you lose. and here's to you mayor gahan the voters will take it out on you a woo hoo hoo whats that you say mayor gahan we cant believe anything you say a hey hey hey a hey hey hey

Anonymous said...

Excuse me 10:07,I am an adult. I am not happy with all the lies Gahan said. If there is an executive order with what is claimed to be in it. I say England should be prosecuted to the full extended of the law. Also, I am totally against the Riverview project as well. So hows that for an adult conversation?

Anonymous said...

a new painted fork on the mayors door, fork over the executive order Gahan

Anonymous said...

Whose Erika?

Anonymous said...

Yours.

Anonymous said...

you better rescind that executive order gahan, the state does allow for removal of elected officials, Indy is watching you!

Anonymous said...

So much for change. I guess Gahan and Robinson are brainstorming trying to figure out how he can cover this all up. Be a man for once in your life and admit England's wrong doing.

Anonymous said...

England is out. Gone. Kaput. Gahan is not England's toady. Don't you know that England H-A-T-E-S Gahan? Have you never heard him say he resents Gahan parking in his spot, etc? Have you never heard England mutter that Gahan has no idea what he's doing, etc? Have you never heard England say he's running in four years against Gahan?

Puhhhhh-LEAAASE!

Anonymous said...

I agree, 7:39. The original question was about the parking garage. I have to agree with Roger on this one. We don't need a parking garage, especially one that's a major expenditure and the source of funding is so much in question. I agree; NO on the parking garage.

Anonymous said...

england run again in 4 years, that man is in denial, he has been totally rejected by the city

Anonymous said...

if gahan and england despise each other why did gahan keep 90% of englands thugs?

Anonymous said...

I think they said England hates Gahan, not they hate each other. Gahan doesn't know England hates him. Either that or he thinks England hates him and just doesn't realize who England's cronies are.

Either way it's pretty pathetic.

Anonymous said...

gahan and england have one thing in common, they both let malysz run the city

Anonymous said...

Yes. They both let Gahan act as their pimp. That's about it.

Anonymous said...

I meant, Malysz. They both let MALYSZ act as their pimp.

Anonymous said...

Malysz was selected because he does an outstanding job for the city. I believe Denison isn't qualified at this time to hold any office much less Mayor. We have our feet on the ground and are running now.

Anonymous said...

the only thing you guys are running from is the truth, if you think otherwise then you are more arrogant and stupid than originally thought

Anonymous said...

Where's the change you all promised Mr. 1:50? Now that your employees are leaking vital information that you all did not want out.
Please sell it to someone else because NO one is buying your BS.

Anonymous said...

I wish I had never bought christmas trees from Gahan

Anonymous said...

Malysz was selected because he does an outstanding job for the city.

Man, what a joke that is. Are you for real? Or are you Carl Malysz?

Anonymous said...

regina overton did the best thing for the city when she fired malysz and Gahan did the worst thing by keeping him. Malysz you dont know as much as you think you know except how to fool stupid politicians like gahan

Anonymous said...

Malysz is a political whore, doesnt care who is in power as long as he gets a free ride, stabbed Bob Real in the back when England ran in 1990, sucked up to Regina Overton when it was apparent England was toast, sucked up to Garner to get back in city hall and then stabbed Garner when England ran against him. Backed Stumler with Englands orders then sucked up to gahan to keep a job.

Your track record speaks for itself Carl

Anonymous said...

Your missing the whole deal on this executive order. Gahan had the order and if someone would not of leaked jeff would of kept the secret too. I though we were going to have change. Gahan would never of brought it out in the open. He's afraid of making another enemy. Well I'll tell ya you have plenty!!!!!

Anonymous said...

You don't have your feet on the ground running. Do you really think your actions speak to that.

Anonymous said...

Has Roger paid his taxes yet?????

Anonymous said...

impeach gahan, illegal acts are impeachable offenses. The executive order is illegal and gahan knows it

Anonymous said...

Gahan did not sign the order but his communication
sucks he still does not concur with council. Gahan you better watch out they are a lot more educated then what your assuming.

Anonymous said...

Does or has anyone seen the excutive order being discussed here? I think if you got it let's put it out for all to see.

Just curious said...

I'm with you 2:52 if it's out there floating around it should be put out there for all to see. I heard downtown yesterday Gahan said he couldn't discuss the executive order because of the HEPA Law. BTW, what is the HEPA Law can anyone explain this?

Anonymous said...

*sigh* Google it. You'll find it's actually HIPAA. Since you're talking about medical insurance, it's covered under those laws.

Let me guess. All of you are syrupy sweet when you see Jeff, Carl, etc. Then, you come here and rip them apart- and accuse them of not being truthful. Nice.

Anonymous said...

medical info is protected by HIPPA not the executive order granting the insurance idiot, nice try but the executive order is subject to a freedom of information act request and if you dont give it up the attorney general will get it

Anonymous said...

an elected official can be removed from office for official misconduct, IC 5-8-1 and IC 35-50-5-1.1

refusing to make public an executive order from a previous administration would qualify as official miscondut so would a refusal to rescind it if the courts determine the executive order was not legal.

now check with your legal experts gahan

Anonymous said...

It's in the Tribune this morning. England says he didn't do it for himself. After all, he can afford the insurance, he says.

Well, England, you may be able to afford the insurance, but you sure lined up pretty fast at the old piggy trough.

Your words are as hollow as your conscience.

Anonymous said...

Gahan may have rescinded it because of all the public pressure but he still cant refuse to make it available to the public, thats still official misconduct gahan and you can be removed from office.

Anonymous said...

HEPA is the Help England Pay (himself) Assuredly.

ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

Or, Hack England Pisses on Americans.

Anonymous said...

How about, Help England's Pimp Act.

Refers to Malysz.

Anonymous said...

Something smells, have you read our local Tribune on line. C'mon folks whose got it and let's see it and let the taxpayer's decide.

Anonymous said...

I like Hack England Pisses on Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

all three who got the free insurance can afford it, this is total bullshit and how can it be legal in the first place an executive order can not appropriate tax dollars except in an emergency situation, giving dougie, kay and pat linck insurance is not an emergency situation, corruption and Gahan as mayor needs to not only rescind but also demand that the three not get 1 dime of free taxpayer funded insurance.

do your duty mayor or you can be removed by indiana law

Anonymous said...

What's the difference than council members getting free healthcare when they can afford it. The city shouldn't be paying healthcare for some part time employees,and retired employees at all. Looking at the Exe. order and it does not name England, Garry or Linck(sp) by name and it was also signed in July, not at the end of the year as stated.

Anonymous said...

who cares when it was signed, the question is was it legal? Gahan is just as guilty if he allowed it go on and is just as guilty by not allowing the public and the council to see the executive order, it falls under the domain of public documents and if Gahan refuses to make the executive orders open to public view he is guilty of official misconduct and can be removed from office according to Indiana code 5-8-1 and IC 35-50-5-1.1

Westender said...

I just visited the clerks office, they have nothing, zilch, nada on Doug's nor Gahan's executive order is not filed there. Anyone have Denhart's phone number? She can find out what is going on if anyone can.

Anonymous said...

the order has to exist they can not have shredded it, i would file a FOI on them right now

Anonymous said...

9:46 we already did (FOIA) in writing it doesn't exist. There is no executive order rescinded. If you don't believe me call her @ 812-948-5336

Anonymous said...

All right there, kiddos. So, how has Gahan been a crappy Mayor? Does the first executive order even exist?

Anonymous said...

of course it exists they must have shredded it, why would gahan say he resinded an executive order that never existed

Anonymous said...

its time for the indiana attny general to get involved you cant trust those crroks on the third floor they are all in cahoots

Anonymous said...

Be a Democrat, like Jeff Gahan.

Anonymous said...

just like the watergate tapes never existed? its a cover-up, get the books from the controllers office see if england garry and linck are getting insurance premiums paid out of city funds. If they dont produce the executive order they can be removed from office for official misconduct

Anonymous said...

contact wlky tv they are good at putting the heat on, we demand those executive orders gahan are you prepared to be removed from office by the courts?

Anonymous said...

A group of citizens are going to file a lawsuit against Doug England and Jeff Gahan. This is just the begining

Anonymous said...

Why do I get the feeling were not being told the truth? How did this leak out? Anyone got a copy yet?

Anonymous said...

i say contact the floyd county prosecutor, call the louisville tv news stations

Anonymous said...

Indiana code 5-8-1, 35-50-5-1.1

bye bye Gahan you wont last another 90 days

Anonymous said...

Wonder if Gahan reads this? He should...

Anonymous said...

gahans too busy shredding executive orders to read this

Anonymous said...

the executive orders exists he gave the media a copy they must give it to the public as well, if they dont produce it take them to court, including the city clerk the clerks duty is to have a permanent record of all official city documents, where is the first one Marcy Wisman? Put her in the lawsuit too

Anonymous said...

jeff gahan, a man with no principles married to a principal

Anonymous said...

I don't know what more you people want. We made solid selections for the various positions in the city within a timely manner. We rescinded the health insurance order; where are your legitimate complaints? Malysz does a great job and cares about the city. We are working hard for you.

Anonymous said...

you have made hack selections, rescinded the executive order only because of political beating you were getting, malysz is a joke and taxpayer rip-off, you are working hard to cover up your corruption

Anonymous said...

jeffy boy, this is your priest again now why do you keep lying to the public? I though after last week's confession you were going to start flying straight again, oh jeffy youre going to need more rosaries, maybe I will join the citizen's lawsuit too

Anonymous said...

where is the original executive order Marcy Wisman and why did you keep it a secret? this city is the dirtiest in america

Anonymous said...

You don't know what we people want, 1:29? We want all England lackeys O-U-T. This includes some of your administration's choices: Carl Malysz, John Rosenbarger, Warren Nash, Shane Gibson and several of the people on committees and boards. We want Gahan to grow some chest hair and act as his own agent and not continue to have his every move executed by the marionette operator Douglas B England. Realize that England is going around everywhere he goes and every chance he gets saying stuff like how much he resents your being in HIS office and parking in YOUR spot. He tells EVERYONE how incompetent you are, Jeff. How can you possibly not know what's going on?

What do we want? We want you to catch ON!

Anonymous said...

should have stuck to selling christmas trees Gahan

Anonymous said...

They didn't see the original Executive order because England left it on the podium at the K of C. Then Vicki Denhart sat a Beer down on it on election night.

No one saw it until a few weeks ago when they were cleaning up after a wedding reception down there and someone finally through away that skunky beer.

Anonymous said...

that executive order should have been maintained in the city clerks office and if vicki denhart saw it she is guilty of a cover-up as well

Anonymous said...

Tim Dickless should run for mayor

Anonymous said...

3:27, That was funny, one of the best I've heard all day

Anonymous said...

roger billy goat for mayor

Anonymous said...

Claiming that Marcy Wiseman has any role in this is totally uncalled for. Put Blame where it belongs. Who signed the document..Doug England

Anonymous said...

she was city clerk when england signed the order in july, she had a duty to keep that record and report any questionable mayoral actions

Anonymous said...

the city council needs to formally request an investigation by the state on this whole matter

Anonymous said...

3:57, as someone close to things in the City Clerk's office, i will give you that Marcey doesn't have any role in THIS event. as far as i can tell, it was an executive order from july, but it MAY have been backdated. either way, it is likely england wanted to slip this one under the carpet without any alarm bells. being as Marcey called out the parking tickets, it is likely that she would have called WAVE3 or someone. now, Marcey is not above protecting special friends of hers, like shane, by "not being able to read" the parking tickets of many, many dollars, but in this one, she's not guilty. imho

Anonymous said...

I'd rather look like a Billy Goat than a troll Dickrich

Anonymous said...

Let's just say here and now that Ron Grooms believes in Creationism and has no tolerance for people making fun of that in other people. Ron is a top notch Senator who understands that people have different ways of believing. He also believes in Science and will not argue about whether humans were created or evolved. Whatever you think does not matter. He is firm in his convictions and he is willing to discuss anything and is open to anything also. I have worked closely with Ron in his campaign and know that he thinks Roger is full of many questions and that he doesn't care what Roger thinks but will also be willing to talk with him to ask. You really should just give Ron a call and ask him. I answered your Twitter message on here because I do not have Twitter. Just Ron will talk with you any time about your questions and he will not make fun of you for not agreeing with him. He believes in Creationism and Science and that's his whole point.

Anonymous said...

Well it looks like Gonders possey Roger Baylor might of voted for you but you only won to keep certain people out and don't forget it because we are watching you every step!!

Anonymous said...

Gonder knowing anything about the park is a joke you can't get Gonder to work on anything but maybe the tree board that's where he belongs. He's lazy lazy!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey Roger that executive order was not signed on the 11 th hour on England it was signed in July. Also your new Mayor Gahan is not really that opposed to it.
And the Celtic feast moved because they did not get a response from your king Gahans administration.

Anonymous said...

Jeff you know in your administration there are a lot of people you can't trust when will you wake up. Just from reading this blog you've been in 8 years you see for #1 how Roger Baylor presents hisself and how long it takes him to turn cult on anyone. His reputation is bad but yet you sneak and meet him. I was at one of the places you to were at and I was in shock. Just like you meeting Shane who as an attitude why do you think both of them did not get elected. But you still go to them drulling.

Anonymous said...

Tonye Rutherford keep going to all your tea party movements I have seen a lot of tapes on you and now your commenting in the tribune. Benedetti will dance circles around you!!!!
You looked pretty bad at Slate Run School sit back you might learn a little something.

Anonymous said...

This is nothing but a cover up with the Tribune. It's time for this to all come out. We need a full investigation.

Anonymous said...

This is a hoax, a joke, no one has a copy just like all the so called secret tapes. Stop bashing Gahan.

Anonymous said...

What is the CJ not telling us? Are they also part of the cover up like the Tribune. The citizens are entitled to the truth. Anyone know how to get to the bottom of this or how can we can get a copy?

Anonymous said...

Rescinding the order's fine, but better be sure the people are actually taken off the insurance policy. Who's paying the bills now? Kay Garry's daughter.

Anonymous said...

its a cover-up, england signed it in July, who knew about it before it came to light? Whoever withheld this illegal act from the public is part of the cover-up that includes you gahan.

I say its time to bring the attorney general in

Anonymous said...

I have a copy of the Executive Order. Yes it exists. The Tribune is not engaging in any kind of cover up. Gahan did the right thing, but only because he got caught. Fact is, pressure is on him to continue several things England put in place and Gahan is like a fish out of water. Doesn't know what to do so he's just jumping around.

The Attorney General needs to do more than come. A full-scale investigation needs to commence immediately before the trail goes cold, complete with personal interviews and search of evidence (most of which has been shredded).

This is a stupid blog.

Anonymous said...

i don't think this is a stupid blog. but i do wish people had to identify themselves onhere. for example, who are you that you know so much on the inside?

Anonymous said...

a cover up by gahan and the england goons, its called obstruction of justice. Charlie Pride stated England did not have the authority to sign the executive order. Obstruction of justice applies to anyone who had advance knowledge of this illegal act or destroyed evidence, that could include Gahan, Pat Linck, Kay Garry, the previous and current city clerk, shane gibson etc.

There needs to be a full scale investigation by the Indiana attorney general and the city council should demand it

Anonymous said...

here it is folks:

Obstruction of justice is an attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers. It may include tampering with or intimidating, hiding evidence or interfering with an arrest. It is something a person does to impede the administration of a court process or proper discharge of a legal duty. Interference may be with the work of police, investigators, regulatory agencies, prosecutors, or other (usually government) officials. Often, no actual investigation or substantiated suspicion of a specific incident need exist to support a charge of obstruction of justice. Such activity is a crime.

Anonymous said...

I think it's funny you people keep wanting change . But you keep voting in the same people!! . New Albany has been corrupt for years . But you keep electing the same people and the same party who are all part of the "good ol boy" club..than get mad cuz there is no change..... Gahan didn't have balls while on the city council for 8 yrs why would he have any now!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I am Tiny Tim Thumb, the diminutive peewee malcontent who got run out of town on a rail. But don't worry. I'm watching from afar, and I will be back. Oh yes, I will be back.

Anonymous said...

What is this crap about Tim Thumb? Look, England may think he'll be back, "oh yes, he will be back," but the fact of the matter is that any England candidacy is out of the question forever. He is D-O-N-E and about time too. Roger says that he's going to run against Ed Clere (yeah, right-I know the Democrats in Indy won't allow that), and I've heard that he's going to run against Ron Grooms (well, Dougie, ya gotta get known in Jeff for that one-yer buddy Gallahan is gone too), and that he's going to run against Jeff Gahan in four years. Well, he'd be about on equal playing field with Gahan because Gahan's obviously got his hand in the same till as England. But he'll NEVER beat Gahan. Never. Not EVER.

So, keep telling us you'll be back you nasty dog. But you won't. No, you won't EVER, EVER be in that mayor's office again.

Good riddance.

Anonymous said...

I used nice language today, see?

Anonymous said...

I wonder if anyone would notice if the two of you would just go outside and enjoy this beautiful day?

Anonymous said...

who cares about doug england he is a has been, gahan is in the hot seat now thats who is ultimately accountable

Anonymous said...

Obviously, YOU'D notice, 9:24. Besides, someone has to do some work in this building.

Anonymous said...

what building 10:04? you blogging on govt time? that you gahan?

Anonymous said...

hey bike boy roger, what board you begging gahan to be appointed to the bicentennial commission?

Anonymous said...

He has appointed me to the Keep Tiny Tim Thumb out of town Commission.

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