Shirley, why wont you address the audit? saying we need and independant audit is saying nothing at all about the results of the audit. How do you feel about it? Do you feel that managment should be held responsible? What changes do you want to see and ones you will advocate for? Please address our concerns if you really feel like you are the best once to represent us. Show some leadership and bring something to the table. Members of current council have said independent audit, so if that is all you can bring, we might as well keep them.
What do you mean by "independent audit?" What do you think the state audit is but an independent audit? I don't think the state is in cahoots with the Kay Garry and the England administration. Do you? Not sure what you're asking about. Can you clarify?
Independent audit performed by an outside accounting firm commissioned and paid for by City Council (really taxpayers).
State DLG has no enforcement powers. All they can do is refer it to your local Prosecutor and if the Prosecutor wants to do something he investigates or has an independent audit done.
ROFLMAO. I am up late and can't sleep and now am LMAO. Would rather not talk about the details, but I've just glanced at the most narcissistic and seemingly endless palaver experienced by mankind.
This morning, I thought I'd check out various things online and ran across a little goody on Twitter about "Erika." So, I checked out Freedom of Speech. I don't know what Witchipoo did, but it's a letter to him and to NAC, and it's 100% dead on RIGHT! Those morons have no idea what they're talking about. I no longer read that "blog", but I can assure you that Freedom of Speech is exercising its right to free speech by NOT allowing the NAC gang to get on there and try to do what they always do: bastardize the issues.
See for yourself what they posted today: http://voiceofnewalbany.blogspot.com/
Just checked out FOS! Wow! That's calling it, FOS! Those morons are constantly twisting things around. I went and read the NAC piece you were talking about. Sounds to me that Gillenwater (a.k.a. Witchipoo) wants to abolish states' rights.
Just found out that NAC has a Facebook page. Since I don't have a Facebook page, I "unlike" it here.
There is nothing "confidential" about NAC. Nuance means nothing to them, and they're so busy choosing who to put down while conveniently ignoring the weaknesses (such as poor grammar and misspellings) of themselves and those they support, that they truly are worth none of our precious time.
If you're with them, they like you for right now. If you're with them, but you wear any kind of label with which they disagree, then they twist what you're doing. Even people who apparently get along with them say they dread the day Roger lands on them.
I say that the day Roger lands on you, you've made it to the side of intelligentsia and understanding. You are on the side of goodness and all that is wonderful. Wear it like a badge of honor, Vicki and enjoy being the part of a very impressive society of movers and shakers!
Well, 8:55, I was going to say that you sound silly, then I realized that you're not at all silly, and certainly no sillier than the NAC gang. So instead I'll say RIGHT ON!
9:15, you have to see it on Facebook, I think. I glanced there to see. It's open to the public.
You know what? Roger thinks by putting his blog on Facebook will make him feel important. Well, I'm here to tell you he's going under, he's a phony and has room to talk about NO one. His agenda: is what's in it for Rog and Rog only.
The funny thing is fluffinstuff doesn't bother Vicki. She doesn't give a sh@t what he says or thinks. He's jealous because she can afford to travel Europe and btw, loser (fluffinstuff) she will be gone to Europe in Novemeber for a month. Don't you wish you made the money she makes to afford her yearly travels?
City Controller Kay Garry said spending in the fire, police and emergency communications departments accounted for 78 percent of the annual general fund budget by her last calculation.
Amen, 11:42. Rog thinks that he'll gain a wider audience by having the Facebook page. Yeah, right. As if any but the most loyal of his followers give a darn what he says anyway, and even THEY have grown weary of his diatribes.
You see, the way bullying works is this:
The bully bullies. Some people join in. Some people stand around and watch, afraid they'll be the next victims. They actually aid and abet the bully, but think they're innocent bystanders. Others go away and do nothing because they don't want to be the next victims and they don't know what to do. Avoidance is best, but, they, too, help the bully. Others try in small ways to stop the bully, but they have to be careful because they WILL get it next for standing up to him. Some people try to reason with the bully, but find that the bully isn't able or interested in reasoning and only wants his way and for him to be the lone designer of what goes down (or of ideologies). NO ONE wants to be picked on by a bully. That's the ONE recurring theme here.
I stand up for Vicki here, but can't possibly do it anywhere else. He'd start on me next.
We need to all unite and stand up to him together. His blog is not relevant and his Facebook page is nothing but an attempt to get revived interest in what he has to say because he realizes that fewer and fewer people are checking in.
He has alienated too many people and burned too many tolled bridges.
As for Kay Garry, NO, I certainly don't want to trust her calculations.
Is it true England has told the police not to worry about the take home cars? Bailey was again in the paper saying he was going to do that thing but that's not the word on the streets. Anyone have any information? Thanks.
It's cute the way you carry on about Roger. Funny that the person that speaks the truth is the bully. Let me guess...you were the non confident, non assertive quiet one in high school that talked smack about all of the other kids, but secretly wanted to be in their circles...and you were jealous that they had the moxie to be who they truly were. Must be sad, that place in which you still reside.
There's an article in the Tribune today they are suppose to park the take home Police cars, but the union has filed a greivance stating it violates their contract. Arbitration is in the wind.
I hear Mike Summers had a massive heart attack and isn't looking good for him. Too much C!
Funny, but I don't remember wanting to be in any special circle in high school and I'm not stuck there. I am also one you can count on who does NOT want to be in Roger's circle. Count me completely out of it, please.
Nobody seems to know how many millions of dollars are actually involved. Nobody seems to know how much of the money went to England personally and/or to his cronies and other crooks. Can you believe this guy actually thinks we will allow him to sit on our 2012 council? Not in this lifetime.
Shirley, what are you thoughts about the police union unwilling to assist in relieving budget problems by not taking home cars if they live out of county? Do you think there is a real problem when those responsible for the budget problems are unwilling to make any sacrafices?
I doubt if Shirley will address your questions, but I would be interested to hear what she would say...
England will never be caught with the money. He's been very clever, although his house of cards is falling around him.
Baylor, he's nothing but a headache, and a mild one at that. Most of the people couldn't care less what he says, and even less about what his sidekick, Gillenwater, or his groupies have to say.
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Thank you, KT, you too!
Happy 4th!
Enjoy your holiday in Washington, Dc.
Yes. Enjoy your holiday!
In the meantime, I'm lobbying for a toll on Bank Street. It's to start immediately AFTER Rick Fox's office and then stay tolled until Elm Street.
Uh, how about $5? Too much? 50 cents?
$5.00 sounds better. Plus an added tax for selling outside of Floyd County.
Happy Birthday America and thanks to KT for putting the truth out there.
Shirley, why wont you address the audit? saying we need and independant audit is saying nothing at all about the results of the audit. How do you feel about it? Do you feel that managment should be held responsible? What changes do you want to see and ones you will advocate for? Please address our concerns if you really feel like you are the best once to represent us. Show some leadership and bring something to the table. Members of current council have said independent audit, so if that is all you can bring, we might as well keep them.
What do you mean by "independent audit?" What do you think the state audit is but an independent audit? I don't think the state is in cahoots with the Kay Garry and the England administration. Do you? Not sure what you're asking about. Can you clarify?
Independent audit performed by an outside accounting firm commissioned and paid for by City Council (really taxpayers).
State DLG has no enforcement powers. All they can do is refer it to your local Prosecutor and if the Prosecutor wants to do something he investigates or has an independent audit done.
One way or the other, it needs to be done.
Happy 4th of July Kitchen Table and to all their readers.
Happy 4th of July to New Albany it appears we have been freed of Nash's column.
Well, YAHOO! Nash's column was stupid anyway.
Article about our poor budget in Trib. I would call it misappropriation. Where did the money go?
Yes, where did the money go? Will the council sweep mismanagement and malfeasance under the council rug? Will anyone hold England accountable?
I'm sick of Dan Coffey grandstanding and acting like he's on the side of the taxpayer.
Can't the local newspaper talk to anyone but Dan?
Councilman Price has been right all along. Shame on District 3 for voting him out of office.
You got what you voted for and we hope Main Street and Spring Street and the Historical group is happy.
Let's see what your golden boy does when he finds out their is NO money for nothing.
Malfeasance and Dereliction of Office.
Now, let's someone post England broke NO laws.
He's a crook with a capital 'C.'
England broke no laws
I'm going to try out a new theory. Roger Baylor.
England broke no laws. Yeah, right.
As for Baylor, he's really reaching now. Can't quite get what he wants.
Too bad, so sad.
England is letting Gibson handle the budget? Is he kidding? The guy is a part of the problem.
Give us a break.
Gibson. Handle the budget. Yell, right. Might as well give the household money to the fat, mooching housewife who watches soaps and eats bonbons.
isnt that garrys job? did they get rid of her?
One can only wish.
Ha! Ha! Ha! I thought that sentence said "eats baboons!" Ha! Ha! Ha!
In any case, it made me think what an appropriate nickname that would be.
Fluffinstuff
Witchipoo
Baboon
Very appropriate.
ROFLMAO. I am up late and can't sleep and now am LMAO. Would rather not talk about the details, but I've just glanced at the most narcissistic and seemingly endless palaver experienced by mankind.
Will wonders never cease.
Good morning, Kitchen Table friends!
This morning, I thought I'd check out various things online and ran across a little goody on Twitter about "Erika." So, I checked out Freedom of Speech. I don't know what Witchipoo did, but it's a letter to him and to NAC, and it's 100% dead on RIGHT! Those morons have no idea what they're talking about. I no longer read that "blog", but I can assure you that Freedom of Speech is exercising its right to free speech by NOT allowing the NAC gang to get on there and try to do what they always do: bastardize the issues.
See for yourself what they posted today: http://voiceofnewalbany.blogspot.com/
GO FOS!
Just checked out FOS! Wow! That's calling it, FOS! Those morons are constantly twisting things around. I went and read the NAC piece you were talking about. Sounds to me that Gillenwater (a.k.a. Witchipoo) wants to abolish states' rights.
JMHO
I thought you said the Nash column was gone!!! I can't believe someone would write bogus info on this blog???
Yeah, I didn't hold my breath that it was true.
Nash doesn't even take his own advice, but seems enamored of his own God-given right to "influence thousands."
News and Tribune, PLEASE get rid of that twaddle.
Just found out that NAC has a Facebook page. Since I don't have a Facebook page, I "unlike" it here.
There is nothing "confidential" about NAC. Nuance means nothing to them, and they're so busy choosing who to put down while conveniently ignoring the weaknesses (such as poor grammar and misspellings) of themselves and those they support, that they truly are worth none of our precious time.
If you're with them, they like you for right now. If you're with them, but you wear any kind of label with which they disagree, then they twist what you're doing. Even people who apparently get along with them say they dread the day Roger lands on them.
I say that the day Roger lands on you, you've made it to the side of intelligentsia and understanding. You are on the side of goodness and all that is wonderful. Wear it like a badge of honor, Vicki and enjoy being the part of a very impressive society of movers and shakers!
And THAT's the last I'll say on the matter.
@ 8:55
I don't get it. Is Baylor attacking Vicki? Where? Why?
Well, 8:55, I was going to say that you sound silly, then I realized that you're not at all silly, and certainly no sillier than the NAC gang. So instead I'll say RIGHT ON!
9:15, you have to see it on Facebook, I think. I glanced there to see. It's open to the public.
You know what? Roger thinks by putting his blog on Facebook will make him feel important. Well, I'm here to tell you he's going under, he's a phony and has room to talk about NO one. His agenda: is what's in it for Rog and Rog only.
Btw, FOS great posting Erik.
The funny thing is fluffinstuff doesn't bother Vicki. She doesn't give a sh@t what he says or thinks. He's jealous because she can afford to travel Europe and btw, loser (fluffinstuff) she will be gone to Europe in Novemeber for a month. Don't you wish you made the money she makes to afford her yearly travels?
Roflmao
Tear down that wall, Mr. Baylor.
ROFL 11:56, TOO FUNNY!
City Controller Kay Garry said spending in the fire, police and emergency communications departments accounted for 78 percent of the annual general fund budget by her last calculation.
Do they really want to trust her calculations?
Amen, 11:42. Rog thinks that he'll gain a wider audience by having the Facebook page. Yeah, right. As if any but the most loyal of his followers give a darn what he says anyway, and even THEY have grown weary of his diatribes.
You see, the way bullying works is this:
The bully bullies.
Some people join in.
Some people stand around and watch, afraid they'll be the next victims. They actually aid and abet the bully, but think they're innocent bystanders.
Others go away and do nothing because they don't want to be the next victims and they don't know what to do. Avoidance is best, but, they, too, help the bully.
Others try in small ways to stop the bully, but they have to be careful because they WILL get it next for standing up to him.
Some people try to reason with the bully, but find that the bully isn't able or interested in reasoning and only wants his way and for him to be the lone designer of what goes down (or of ideologies).
NO ONE wants to be picked on by a bully. That's the ONE recurring theme here.
I stand up for Vicki here, but can't possibly do it anywhere else. He'd start on me next.
We need to all unite and stand up to him together. His blog is not relevant and his Facebook page is nothing but an attempt to get revived interest in what he has to say because he realizes that fewer and fewer people are checking in.
He has alienated too many people and burned too many tolled bridges.
As for Kay Garry, NO, I certainly don't want to trust her calculations.
Is it true England has told the police not to worry about the take home cars? Bailey was again in the paper saying he was going to do that thing but that's not the word on the streets. Anyone have any information? Thanks.
It's cute the way you carry on about Roger. Funny that the person that speaks the truth is the bully. Let me guess...you were the non confident, non assertive quiet one in high school that talked smack about all of the other kids, but secretly wanted to be in their circles...and you were jealous that they had the moxie to be who they truly were. Must be sad, that place in which you still reside.
There's an article in the Tribune today they are suppose to park the take home Police cars, but the union has filed a greivance stating it violates their contract. Arbitration is in the wind.
I hear Mike Summers had a massive heart attack and isn't looking good for him. Too much C!
Funny, but I don't remember wanting to be in any special circle in high school and I'm not stuck there. I am also one you can count on who does NOT want to be in Roger's circle. Count me completely out of it, please.
Doug England is the mayor and I strongly urge that he be prosecuted for mismanagement and sued.
He should be prosecuted for a variety of what appears to be felonies and sued to recover some of the fortune he's misused over the last 3 1/2 years.
He belongs in prison with the rest of the local political crooks.
A few million dollars of taxpayers money seems to have been diverted from it's intended use.
Where's the money, Mayor England?
Nobody seems to know how many millions of dollars are actually involved. Nobody seems to know how much of the money went to England personally and/or to his cronies and other crooks.
Can you believe this guy actually thinks we will allow him to sit on our 2012 council?
Not in this lifetime.
Shirley, what are you thoughts about the police union unwilling to assist in relieving budget problems by not taking home cars if they live out of county? Do you think there is a real problem when those responsible for the budget problems are unwilling to make any sacrafices?
2:55 shirely will have to check with others first to find out what to say.
I doubt if Shirley will address your questions, but I would be interested to hear what she would say...
England will never be caught with the money. He's been very clever, although his house of cards is falling around him.
Baylor, he's nothing but a headache, and a mild one at that. Most of the people couldn't care less what he says, and even less about what his sidekick, Gillenwater, or his groupies have to say.
Who is Mike Summers, Shirley?
Who is Mike Summers, 10:39?
For like the last half dozen or so posts, I have no idea what you're talking about. Who is Mike Summers? Is he running for Mayor?
Mike Summers is an attorney who use to be Council Attorney.
Thank you. I did not know who Mike Summers was, that's all. I hope he gets well.
That's a good one Erik, 'eat your peas, America.'
Good grief,8:25. England DID break laws. Don't you have a cope of the 2010 Audit?
Mike Summers update. He has been transfered to Intensive Care @ Jewish Hospital. In serious condition.
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