No. There is nothing you can do. We're not kidding. Walk away. Just walk away.
The County Prosecutor won't do anything. No. It's too political. Add to this the fact the County knows what's going on within the City. The County is the one letting England and the boys make property tax payment installments. Everyone else gets foreclosed on, but not them.
Just walk away. The only thing the citizens of New Albany have as a plus in their column is the City would not be able to raise the tax levy because we could file a remonstrance against the levy and their books would not justify the increase. Only thing.
Well, we could sue them for dereliction of duties and mismanagement, but who's got the money?
And, if that happened, we would simply be suing ourselves. Ugly, huh?
Walk away, just walk away.
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Sigh. What you're saying is sad but true. That there's nothing to be done without a smoking gun is well known. They're slick and they know how to hide. Bottom line is, they'll continue getting by with this because, in the grand scheme of things, New Albany's malfeasance is just a drop in the bucket. Small potatoes.
Yes. We've thought a lot about moving.
i heard from someone downtown that the person under contract is the controllers daughter. shes an attorney and been under contract for over a year making big bucks.
Isn't she the one who wanted to sue Valla Ann for attacking her mother?
I was there and Valla Ann just called a spade a spade.
Mary Ann Prestigiacomo. She has quite a history I've been told.
Unreal.
Yeah, I've got all kinds of information on Mary Ann Prestigiacomo. She's another one of New Albany's fine characters. Lost her business partner/father and carries on in law without him. Sad. She's a real snob, though.
what? the city controller contracts with a lawyer who happens to be her daughter to clean up the the city accounting records? somethings sounds very very wrong with that. why does she need a lawyer? why is this allowing to occur?
and garry complains in the paper today that she and her staff are under paid. i guess she want us to believe that if they pay her more she will be able to do a better job. what a joke
Way to go Freedom Of Speech. One of the best posting I've ever read. It is what it is.
the bitch just got a raise in 2010. She now makes over $54K. Cry us a river Garry. Walk a mile in my shoes.
$54K to screw up the records? can only imagine how much they are paying her lawyer to um unscrew them? in the mean time we are paying a hevty price for them to screw us.
You should have posted RUN, don't walk, just RUN.
CASE NO. 22D03-1101-CC-000154
Mercy Long Term Care Initiatives, Inc. vs. Kathlyn Garry
Case Type: CC - Civil Collection
Date Filed: 01/25/11
Location: Floyd Superior Court 3
Lead Attorney Mary A Prestigiacomo
01/25/2011 Appearance Filed
For Party: Mercy Long Term Care Initiatives, Inc.
File Stamp: 01/25/2011
01/25/2011 Summons
9171082133393838667594
Requested By Mercy Long Term Care Initiatives, Inc.
Garry, Kathlyn M Served 01/27/2011
Anticipated Method Registered or Certified Mail
signed personally
02/18/2011 Appearance Filed
Prestigiacomo
For Party: Garry, Kathlyn M
Attorney: Prestigiacomo, Mary Ann
File Stamp: 02/15/2011
02/18/2011 Motion for Enlargement of Time Filed
Filed By: Garry, Kathlyn M
Filed By: Prestigiacomo, Mary Ann
File Stamp: 02/15/2011
02/24/2011 Order Issued (Judicial Officer: Granger, Maria D )
Order of Recusal and Selection of Special Judge under Local Rule
Order Signed: 02/23/2011
03/03/2011 Special Judge Appointed Pursuant to Local Rule TR 79H (Judicial Officer: Jacobi, Jerome Francis )
Assignment Judge assigns as Special Judge the Honorable Jerry F. Jacobi of the Clark Superior Court #2.
Order Signed: 02/28/2011
03/16/2011 Answer to a Complaint Filed
Answer and Affirmative Defenses
Filed By: Garry, Kathlyn M
Filed By: Prestigiacomo, Mary Ann
File Stamp: 03/15/2011
"it's too political"
don't you mean because there's no proof of wrong doing.
poor accounting is not a crime. no one has shown money missing.
So Garry has a medical bill? So what?
And how do you determine if money is missing, 5:21? No, I mean it's too political for Henderson to SEE if there is money missing.
@6:41 some people have made up their mind already. most of them made up their mind years ago.
I posted this to another website a few months ago and received no reply. Maybe someone here can reply.
Here’s a challenge. Show me where Baylor or any of his “cohorts” ever claimed that England is not corrupt. Show me where anyhow claims Malysz or Gibson aren’t committing crimes.
... All 1000 or so of Roger Baylor’s posts are online too. You can look at any and all of them right now. Take the challenge, if you dare. Baylor’s not defending corruption and he’s not defending people proven to be criminals. Baylor may have laughed off unproven claims of corruption but show me where he’s ever laughed off a legitimate proof of corruption.
Here’s my problem with “Citizens for Accountability.” In this country people are presumed to be innocent until proven guilty. But that’s not how it works for “Citizens for Accountability” or “Freedom of Speech.” CFA and FOS have never proved anything. They’ve never shown a hint of solid evidence that England or Malysz or Gibson are in cahoots with anyone.
If “Citizens for Accountability” have evidence of a crime, BE A GOOD CITIZEN AND TAKE IT TO A PROSECUTOR. Take it to the F.B.I. Show people what you have. Show us the goods. Stop playing games and let's shut the crooks down. That will make you a good citizen!
If “Citizens for Accountability” does not have evidence of a crime, stop spreading your slander. Stop tarring the reputations of hard working civil servants. Stop saying guilty until proven innocent. Stop being so sloppy with your baseless accusations.
If you're a good citizen, you'll say the council should allocate more funds for internal controls. If you're a bad citizen, you'll cry theft when you have no proof of theft.
And I agree with you 8:21 except for the fact the Administration even moves the money without Council knowing. That's why someone asked why do they need a Council? How does Council take care of sewer billing? How could the City possibly not bill for their properties, which are too numerous to name? Throw it on the Council - yeah, right.
Give us a break 8:19. Who in the hell do you think you are? Roger? You need to read the last three audits. I take it you do know how to read. Then tell us all nothing is going on with taxpayers money.
How many laws has England broke since being in office (2008)?
Several!
Do your homework like FOS and Citizens for Accountability does.
The democrats have so much dirt on Henderson that's why he does absolutely nothing.
This is all about Doug and what Doug wants.
Not what is best for New Albany.
I applaud our local citizen group, they have bragging rights, and have been right on the money from the get go to say: "we told you so."
Ask candidate Gahan how many votes he got from Denhart and her Citizens for Accountability group?
At least he's man enough to say: "they have been right all along on the money."
You got that right 2:17. Might I add that Doug England has even told everyone (who will) listen. He is only running for council because he wants the healh insurance. His wife inherited over $2 million, they can afford paying their own health care.
He's a drunk and a liar too.
i've read the last three audits. tell me where they say money was stolen? which page?
it's not in there. the audits don't say money was stolen.
http://www.in.gov/sboa/WebReports/B38783.pdf
here's the audit. we can all see it. tell us which page says money was stolen?
if you can't show where money was stolen, then yes, you are spreading slander. shame on you!
The State Board of Accounts have no powers for enforcement (go figure). We need an independent audit and get our house in order! It's not as if the money hasn't been an issue for years.
still waiting. which page of the report said money was stolen?
CFA, are you accountable when you say you can prove money was stolen when you cannot?
12:10 i guess you must be happy with the way the city manage and accounts for our money. since you feel ms garry does such a wonderful job accounting for the tax payers money, why dont you hand your personal money over to ms garry and her lawyer daughter to manage for you then?
When has CFA accused Mrs. Garry of stealing? Show us in writing 12:10.
yea 12:10 and where does it say in the audit report that all monies have been accounted for?
When has CFA accused Mrs. Garry of stealing? Show us in writing 12:10.
From Erika's last post:
When you read the complete 53 pages of the 2010 City of New Albany Audit. (1) You either want to quit paying your own sewer bills. (2) move (3) pray England does not end up on our council. (4) you see all the greedy corruption in a small town (with less than 37,000 people) and wonder why NO one ever demands accountability or why NO one is ever prosecuted.
So you didn't you the word "stealing." You said "corruptiion" for which someone should be "prosecuted."
You have evidence of bad accounting, not stolen money. For what crime should Garry, or England, be prosecuted? Bad internal controls is not a crime.
Checked out that audit. Interesting that the audit noticed some discrepancies:
However, as described in the accompanying Schedule of Findings and Questioned Costs, we
identified certain deficiencies in internal control over financial reporting that we consider to be material weaknesses.
In fact, I found this sort of comment all over the place:
The esults of our tests disclosed instances of noncompliance or other matters that are required to be reported
under Government Auditing Standards and which are described in the accompanying Schedule of
Findings and Questioned Costs as item 2010-1.
Here's a little goody for you:
1. Bank Reconciliations
Record balances were not fully reconciled to depository balances during the audit period.
Monthly reconcilements performed consisted of verifying source documents (quietuses
and checks) to deposits and checks clearing depositories each month, for each of the
City's 20 bank accounts, and to the transactions and balances recorded in the City's
records.
Eleven of the City's twenty bank accounts reconciled to the record balances of the
applicable funds at December 31, 2010; however, discrepancies between the reconciled
amounts and the transactions and balances of the remaining nine bank accounts were
not always investigated or investigated in a timely manner. Failure to investigate these
variances could result in posting errors and bank errors going undetected. Undetected
posting errors and bank errors could result in materially inaccurate financial statements
and could allow fraud to occur and go undetected.
Then there's that pesky little thing about timely recording:
2. Timely Recordkeeping
Transactions were not being posted to the ledger timely. Collections totaling $98,679
that had been deposited in the bank during the period of August 11, 2010 to November
29, 2010, were not posted to the records until 72 to 169 days later. Returned checks
totaling $1,592 received during the period of March 17, 2010 to November 26, 2010,
were not posted to the City's ledger until January 11, 2011.
Failure to timely identify and record collections deposited into the bank and post return
checks to the ledger, could result in materially inaccurate financial statements and could
allow fraud to occur and go undetected.
And, of course, no discussion of NA's financial state would be complete without bringing up wastewater:
Transaction Recording
Some transactions of the Wastewater Utility - SRF Bond and Interest Fund and the
Wastewater Utility - SRF Debt Service Reserve Fund were not recorded in the records.
These transactions included $310,261 in transfers received by the Wastewater Utility -
SRF Bond and Interest Fund and a payment in the amount of $1,333,629 made by the
Wastewater Utility - SRF Debt Reserve Fund to pay off a bond anticipation note.
Failure to record all transactions of the City can result in materially inaccurate financial
statements and could allow fraud to occur and go undetected.
Of course, they found the inevitable "mistatements":
4. Annual Financial Report
The City and Town Annual Financial Report (CTAR-2) prepared and filed by the City was
not properly reviewed and compared to the City's ledgers prior to being filed to ensure it
accurately and correctly reflected the transactions and balances of the City's financial
records. As a result, the City's Annual Report was materially misstated. Additionally, the
classification of disbursements for Debt Service – Principal and Interest, as shown in the
Supplementary Information, Combining Schedule(s) of Receipts, Disbursements, and
Cash and Investment Balances – Regulatory Basis, reported a total of $770,044 for debt
service. The actual debt service disbursements during the audit period were $8,675,070.
Yawn.
The State Board of Accounts was unable to provide an unqualified opinion on the Independent
Auditor's Report for the financial statement due to the following deficiencies:
1. Cash reconcilements were incomplete.
2. Some financial transactions were not posted to the financial records timely.
3. Financial records did not contain all the financial transactions pertaining to the City.
Uh-oh...
OVERDRAWN CASH BALANCES
The cash balances of the following funds were overdrawn in 2010:
Fund 2010
General $ 2,296,002
Motor Vehicle Highway 232,954
Park and Recreation Operating 159,654
Sanitation 5,636,473
EDIT Bond Interest 2,913
The cash balance of any fund may not be reduced below zero. Routinely overdrawn funds could
be an indicator of serious financial problems which should be investigated...
Certainly looks like we feel free not to ask for permission. Surprise, surprise.
During 2010, a temporary transfer of $500,000 was made from the TIF Grantline Road Fund to
the General Fund for cash flow purposes without an ordinance or resolution being approved by the
Common Council.
Now, after making it easy for you people to see some of the evidence, I ask but one question: Is this something you can honestly defend? Really?
Which one of those items is a crime?
I repeat, poor internal controls is not a crime. Overdrawn accounts are not crimes per se. Nor are incomplete reconcilements.
Tell me which section of Indiana's criminal code was violated?
Is this something you can honestly defend? Really?
No one is defending poor internal controls or bad bookkeeping.
Defending it and saying it's not a crime are two different things. Obviously you cannot see the difference.
No. I can see the difference. I can also read between the lines. But, no matter. You'd rather get on here and attack those of us who show concern about this than consider that this situation cannot stand as it is and demands the attention of the citizens of New Albany.
You'd rather we all just walk away.
You'd rather get on here and attack those of us who show concern about this than consider that this situation cannot stand as it is and demands the attention of the citizens of New Albany.
There you go again.
Demanding a criminal investigation where you have no evidence of a crime does not help anyone in New Albany.
Call for audits all you want. I won't complain. There's nothing wrong with an outside audit.
You are wrong if you think the only solution to the problems in this report of handcuffs and jail terms. You also are wrong if you think I'd rather "we all just walk away." Stop attacking me and stick to the facts. Instead of calling for prosecutions, call for answers.
I'm attacking YOU ? You're the one claiming that I'm calling for a criminal investigation. Find it in any of the texts I've sent. Any.
Stop creating a false argument and try actually reading what I've written here (from 6:17 to now).
Thank you.
F.O.S. called for a criminal investigation. Why else would she say prosecutors should be involved? Pathetic.
@7:53 i don't know about you but i can't keep my anonymous's straight.
@7:55 & 7:53 I can't keep my anonymouses straight either, but I can tell that the person who wrote on here this evening is not writing in the same voice as the person who demanded prosecutorial attention. Kind of suspect it's not the same person. In fact, there are a lot of us who get on here. A lot of different people talking.
Mrs. Garry has been controller for 14 years that I am aware of. Shouldn't she know her job by now and be accountable?
She is the controller and also sits on the Board of Works, which happens to pay her during her regular hours. (under Indiana Code, that is called double dipping) Why should we pay her for doing two things when she is already being compensated quite well for the first job she is not even doing correctly?
Freedom Of Speech and CFA has more relevent experience with the critical problems we have in our city then our current Mayor, and their strategy for solving the financial problems is focused on the root causes and how to deal with them.
Hats off to both, glad someone is fighting for me and my family.
The more Garry speaks the bigger the hole she digs. Just shut up Kay, we know your the one who writes every check England uses.
that's what i thought. no evidence of crime.
CFA, why don't you stop running to the prosecutor every time you want to score political points. with people like you bugging him, no wonder they can't finish the camm trial.
Oh, there's evidence of possible crime, 6:38. Just because you don't have a smoking gun doesn't mean you don't continue investigating. What are you, Roger? He's the only one I knew of who says whatever he wants, running roughshod over everyone, with no evidence, just as he defends things when all evidence points another direction. If you're Roger, don't bother defending Kay Garry. She ought to know better than to blame "software" and she ought to be doing her job correctly or be out the door. Period.
Roger, you need to stop worrying about CFA why don't you just admit you got $6,000 worth of my hard earned tax dollars for your Swillhouse patio?
I plan to meet with our next mayor (Gahan) and request my part of the street (Bank) be put back the way it was.
Btw, how much longer do you plan to be in business on Bank Street? Your business like Smith's is drying up. Do you really think Gahan will be kissing your ass once he's mayor?
NOT!
Just because you don't have a smoking gun doesn't mean you don't continue investigating.
let us know when you find that evidence you've been looking for!
@8:16
you have excellent debate skills. when someone asks a question you can't answer, you change the subject to baylor.
Question: what proof do you have of a crime?
CFA Answer: baylor's an athetist!
Question: Why did you say the prosecutor should be involved when you have no proof of a crime?
CFA Answer: Baylor has a patio, DUH!
Question: Why haven't I ever met this Professor Erik?
CFA Answer: Who made Baylor boss?
Excellent debate skills! Never respond to a question you can't answer! Distract, Distract, Distract!
No. I think YOU'RE the one doing the distracting, 8:27.
FACT: New Albany's audit and Kay Garry's official response show nothing short of incompetence and idiocy. We ought to be ashamed. Forget the crime. You ought to be cringing in shame. We all should.
FACT: There's a nice patio in front of the Bank Street Swillhouse. It takes away from the street. Seems a little unfair.
FACT: CFA has been looking into issues that affect all of us by using our tax dollars either carelessly or unscrupulously. They certainly uncover more than other supposed "blog reporters" around NA.
FACT: There is too much chatter about Roger A. Baylor, an individual whose influence is waning (thank GOD) and who uses us and then throws whatever offenses he can right in our faces. It's a fact that more and more people are boycotting the Swillhouse.
FACT: I'm bored of the subject, so let's not talk TO or ABOUT Baylor. He really has nothing to do with things that are going on. He's a talker. Nothing more.
8:42, I think it scares you that Baylor's influence is actually growing- for a good reason. He's got valid points with solid evidence and fact behind him- which you've not got.
You're going to say I'm him, or one of his cronies- which, I am not. I'm someone you'd not expect- and that possibility scares people like you to death, who think like the little people that they are.
There may or may not be legitimate crimes in the accounting division downtown. Whoever is making the point that you simply have opinion- and not fact- is completely correct. All of the things that you highlighted say MAY. It MAY indicate a fraud problem. MAY is not fact, my dear friend. When you speak as though it is fact- that it indeed happened and we know the full details and it's gone through a court of law, you are merely stating your opinion- and you are entitled to that. What you're not entitled to is stating it as fact.
Oh, and FOS? Who in the world has a blog that doesn't allow comments? That's ridiculous. "HEY ALL! LISTEN TO MY OPINION BUT YOU MAY NOT RESPOND, BECAUSE I HAVE MY HANDS IN MY EARS AND CAN'T HEAR YOU NEENER NEENER!"
Grow up. Do people really have to come here to discuss your ridiculous, grammatically disastrous blog? REALLY? Those red lines under the words you type on your blog- they mean there's a problem. You've misspelled or said something incorrectly- look it up! No excuses.
There are a few of you here capable of true debate, and honest discussion. Please, for the love of New Albany- present yourselves more often. We don't have to agree, but at least we get somewhere when we try to talk.
In case you are in any way interested, my experience with Baylor's blog is this: I've written or stated things which he has then bastardized by taking it out of context or using it to apply to something HE wants to say or by completely MISQUOTING me. I have absolutely no fear of the man (which word [man] I use carefully), nor am I afraid that you're someone who admires him that I wouldn't expect. Good for you and to each his own. But Baylor is one disingenuous ideologue who says whatever he wants and stomps on whomever he wants out of convenience (his own). I am completely over Roger.
'Nuff said.
Well, said, 9:29. Interesting how 9:08 thinks we "get somewhere when we try to talk." And then, there's the TRUTH.
Its OK with me that FOS puts stuff out there and doesn't let any comments. I wouldn't either. Why? Because that goup of mad, mean bloggers who get on Roger's blog would be on it fast and furious with any and every negative comment they could invent. That's their MO. They put as many bad stuff as they can think of so the "official record" will show that people don't like or disagree with the good people.
I'm prefer his real name Fluffenstuf, and Witchipoo for his sidekick Gillenwater. Fluffenstuff and Witchipoo need to get REAL JOBS and start leaving the good people alone. Pretty soon, no one will want to talk to them. Even one of his newest friends says its only a matter of time till he bashes him too. Everyone's sick of you, Fluffenstuff. Go away.
This is she poses as a Professor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority#Appeal_to_authority_as_logical_fallacy
9:08, I'm one of those people on here capable of true debate. So, why do you answer my "FACT" list by talking about Baylor? What about the issues surrounding Kay Garry?
(Darn link)
This is why she poses as a Prof.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
9:08, your wrong about Baylor. His influence is certainly not growing. And if it was it should be a cause for alarm not gloating.
9:08, I'm one of those people on here capable of true debate. So, why do you answer my "FACT" list by talking about Baylor? What about the issues surrounding Kay Garry?
Excuse me. No one said there weren't problems with the audit. Can you point out one place where someone on this blog said the audit showed perfect financial health and happiness?
F.O.S. said prosecutors should be involved and has failed to show why that is the case. That's my points. Stop changing the subject to Baylor. I wasn't talking about him. I didn't bring him up.
FACT: There's a nice patio in front of the Bank Street Swillhouse.
FACT: Your issue with the sidewalk improvement in front of the Brewhouse has everything to do with Baylor's political views and nothing to do with the cost of the sidewalk. If it were just about sidewalks, you'd be giving equal time to Wick's sidewalk improvement. I never hear anything about Wick's sidewalk. The only reason why is because Michael Wickliffe doesn't blog.
Either give equal whine time to Michael Wickliffe or shut up about the Brewhouse sidewalk. We're tired of your personal attacks masked as political "facts."
I don't care if Baylor blogs. That's his first amendment right. Also, I don't care that he's a progressive. I am too. I like craft beer, and Baylor's done a nice adaptive reuse of the old bread store building. I applaud that.
But his sidewalk is like a grace-and-favor goody and "improvements" are FAR superior to anything happening at Wick's.
@9:08
Last night, I presented several snippets of interest from the official audit. Made a few comments, but at NO time did I list these as done-deal FACTS. You're awfully touchy, and, yes, I'd say you're one of those surprises that wouldn't be much of a surprise.
Witchipoo needs a job.
But his sidewalk is like a grace-and-favor goody and "improvements" are FAR superior to anything happening at Wick's.
if you mean the blocks or the semi-enclosed area, those were added by baylor's landlord. the only thing the city did was fix the sidewalk, exactly like the did at wick's.
Reading all the comments makes me ask this - why wouldn't we expect Henderson to look into this matter? Usually, this is who the State Board of Accounts turn this matter over to, for further investigation. Does anyone actually expect or think the council can do anything about the financials?
Maybe that's the frustration in a nut shell.
Usually, this is who the State Board of Accounts turn this matter over to, for further investigation.
I'm not familiar with SBA's past investigations. Can you give an example of where they turned to the local prosecutor?
I'd have to do research through the Tribune. I think Clark County did this but I'd have to check out the other Counties who's moneys wre messed up and the Prosecutor investigated.
there's messed up and there's messed up. i'd like to see examples from elsewhere.
it's not too political for henderson IF the state board of accounts makes a formal request. that gives him political cover to at least act like there's an investigation.
i have not seen that SBA has requested anything from Henderson.
First of all, I don't agree with you 9:08. It's FOS right to state their facts and their opinions. If I had a blog I would not allow opinions either.
NAC only allows who he wants to blog. He only knows who and then like 'vette man' Roger threw him under the bus and exposed who he was.
I've ALSO attended council meetings and the very next newspaper did not have the facts in it either. So, I do agree with FOS the newspaper is bias.
A friend of mine who happens to personally know Mrs. Denhart contacted her and we got a copy of the 2010 Audit. I read this statement several times in this audit: "Routinely over drawn funds could be an indicator of serious financial problems which should be investigated by the governmental unit."
Based on some of your alls reading comprehension FOS is right on the money. It should be investigated.
My understanding there is a procedure they have to go through to get things investigated and my understanding through Mrs. Denhart Charlie Pride told her they have no authority to prosecute.
As a taxpayer I want to know where the money went. That's my right, her right and your right. If you don't care how your tax dollars are spent then shame on you.
If she and her lawyer daughter can't even manage their own money, why are they being allowed to even attempt to manage the taxpayers money. sad
@1:56 love the personal attack that has nothing to do with city finance. keep it classy!
It's FOS right to state their facts
you're right. denhart has a right to her own facts, irrespective of the evidence, huh?
she's entitled to her own opinoin, not her own facts. we all know denhart's opinion. it's her opinion that she's a male professor.
by the way, i've never seen roger delete a comment from his blog except when it was anonymous. has denhart ever tried to comment on NAC? didn't think so.
If she and her lawyer daughter can't even manage their own money, why are they being allowed to even attempt to manage the taxpayers money. sad
proof they can't manage their own money??????
maybe she didn't pay the medical bill because it's an outstanding insurance claim? maybe she didn't pay it because she's in a dispute with a crooked doctor.
you're very quick to be judge, jury and executioner before you even attempt to get the other side of the story.
2:02, YOU'RE ONE SICK PUPPY.
Does she really get paid extra $ for sitting on the Board of Works?
Based on the audit several million dollars have been mismanaged. I'm with you 1:33 Mayor England and Kay Garry should be investigated, prosecuted and sued. If this isn't a crime, what is?
Based on the audit several million dollars have been mismanaged. I'm with you 1:33 Mayor England and Kay Garry should be investigated, prosecuted and sued. If this isn't a crime, what is?
What section of the Indiana Code was violated?
Question: Has Denhart tried to comment on NAC?
Answer: 2:02, YOU'RE ONE SICK PUPPY.
Proves my case!
2:04 Here you go
CASE NO. 10C01-0808-CC-000701
Target National Bank vs. Mary A Prestigiacomo
Case Type: CC - Civil Collection
Date Filed: 08/01/08
Location: Clark County Circuit Courts
Lead Attorney Mary A Prestigiacomo
Judgment Docket Book
A judgement for $12,953.51 costs and interest was entered against Prestigiacomo, Mary A and awarded to Target National Bank.
Vol./Book 34, Page 682
12/01/2008
Notice of Bankruptcy Filed
Filed By: Prestigiacomo, Mary A
File Stamp: 07/29/2010
CASE NO. 10D02-0911-CC-001497
Capital One Bank (usa) Na vs. Joseph G Prestigiacomo
Case Type: CC - Civil Collection
Date Filed: 11/17/2009
Location: Clark Superior Court 2
Lead Attorney Mary A Prestigiacomo
A judgement for $21,488.35 plus int/costs was entered against Prestigiacomo, Joseph G and awarded to Capital One Bank (Usa) Na.
Vol./Book 36, Page 121
03/02/2010
Notice of Bankruptcy Filed
Filed By: Prestigiacomo, Joseph G
File Stamp: 07/29/2010
Someone at the state level needs to tell England that it's not as if he just took office last month and walked into - this situation - he's been in charge of the city for over 13 years and played a starring role in creating these problems.
Bzzzz. That's what I hear now when the mayor speaks. I just can't take anything he says seriously. One moment he praises the council, then he's piling on the rhetoric. One moment he's being bombastic and hostile at council meetings and then the next moment he's saying citizens are undemocratic.
He's criticized for lavish and wasteful spending. The next moment he is saying we are broke.
Bzzzzz.
1:15 - do you think they would print "an investigation was underway" even if there was. I think they tell you about the investigation after they prove something and make a case. The State's case would probably rest on the word "intentional".
If the County does have to investigate and have an audit performed, I hope a Judge makes the City pay for it. Win Win for Henderson and taxpayers.
and to think mama garry hired daughter Prestigiacomo to fix the books. lord help us.
Your right, anonymous. And the primary reason why Mr, England messages are muddled is because in truth, he's a man without principals.
Maybe the Mayor should plug the cracks and stop letting millions here and there disappeared like he did in the 80's an 90's.
Tax money is not funny money.
Looks like Prestiglacomo lived beyond her means. The apple never falls far from the tree, does it?
with her presonal expertise in bankruptcy, prestigiacomo was probably contracted by garry to file bankruptcy for the city.
Now see, Garry's daughter needed that job because of their bankruptcys. How bad is that inference? What a crock our City would put her in a job directly associated with the city's books. But, it's not what you know in this town, never is.
If there are cut backs, why hold onto Shane Gibson? I'm sure that the City of New Albany can hire a qualified candidate with the proper education, credentials instead of an expensive mouth piece. The lay offs sgould start on the 3rd floor and then hit the NAPD after that.
GIBSON MUST BE OFF SOMEWHERE STARING INTO A MIRROR SINGING 'HOW MUCH IS THAT DOGGIE IN THE WINDOW' WHILE HE LET'S ENGLAND DESTROY OUR CITY AND ROBS US BLIND.
unaccounted money and the controllers daughter who happens to also be the controllers attorney is brought in to "fix" the books. if that doesnt scream foul, unethical, and a severe conflict of interest what the h@ll does? that is soo wrong!
Were doomed for sure, now.
Looks like Prestiglacomo lived beyond her means. The apple never falls far from the tree, does it?
Again we have Judy, Jury and Executioner who has no interest in hearing both sides of the story.
Maybe she had a lot of medical bills. Even people good insurance have to file bankruptcy sometimes after a major operation.
You don't know her story.
Also, who the h*ll are you? How do we know you know anything about finance? For all we know, maybe you have filed bankrtupcy three times? Show your face and let us know what a financial wizard you are!
Garry and Prestigiacomo must not be allowed to get away with this. Gahan and other council members, call for their immediate removal!
I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE WHERE THE S.B.A. HAS EVER ASKED A PROSECUTOR TO GET INVOLVED?
ANYONE? ANYONE?
3:17 The judge decided against Prestigiacomo not the bloggers on here. Her side has been told in a court of law and the judge didnt buy it. If you want to learn about her side do what we did and read the court records.
Why would anyone vote for this guy?
3:17 ROFLMAO - MAKES YOU WONDER,HUH?
ANON 7:32, 2:04, 2:30, 3:17 you once aeemed pretty bright but your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired.
i think 3:17 must be banging garry, prestigiacomo or both. they're probably paying him with tif funds to bang them.
EEW! That guy must be hard up. No pun intended.
It is interesting to read Fluffinstuff and his dwindling group of fluffers attack FOS for not allowing comments instead of commenting on the content of the posts. It is interesting that Fluffinstuff and his dwindling group of fluffers attack Vicki Denhart and accuse her of not having any facts.
In fact, New Albany is extremely fortunate to have Vicki Denhart who, for no financial or political gain of her own, puts the needs of the citizens of New Albany before even her own reputation, leisure time, or safety.
All that comes out from that gang are the predictable attacks. They attack everyone, and sooner or later, they will have no one left who believes they have ANY credibility. Any at all.
The choice is theirs as to whether to hang their hats on the stand of ideology, or to begin to stand on their own for the hard-working citizens of integrity who try their best to give whatever it takes to make New Albany a better place for all.
I also think that the personal attacks on here are starting to sound like a bully pulpit, something KT administrators said they would not allow. For example, it's HIGHLY UNLIKELY that Ms. Garry or Ms. Prestigiacomo are "banging" anyone in return for TIF funds. That is a comment that is uncalled for, and it is not the only one.
We need a "THE BUCK STOPS HERE" kind of leader. Like Truman!
Only problem is that Truman filed bankruptcy.
F.O.S. quoted Lincoln last week. Maybe we need a leader like Lincoln!
Only problem with that is that Lincoln filed bankruptcy too.
Guess who has NOT filed bankruptcy. GARRY!
I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE WHERE THE S.B.A. HAS EVER ASKED A PROSECUTOR TO GET INVOLVED?
ANYONE? ANYONE?
You want to make childish joked about who is "hard up" or do you want to talk about public finance?
Reading these comments, the answer is obvious.
@ 3:47 PM
I don't see where ANON 7:32, 2:04, 2:30, 3:17, has ever shown any particular intelligence.
Just sayin'.
Check out this link. http://tinyurl.com/443qsze
Talkes about Lincoln's bankruptcy. Henry Ford's bankruptcy too.
Now, who's ready to start casting stones?
Talks
If you want to talk about criminals in New Albany, why don't you start with the drug dealers on Main Street? How many children got jacked up on their poison?
If you you to talk about liars in New Albany, why don't you start with the woman who says she's a male professor? Everyone knows it, Vicky. The longer you play this childish game, the more everyone knows you cannot tell truth from fiction.
The followers of Fluffinstuff (and probably Fluffinstuff himself) would show more community spirit if they refrained from gratuitous attacks on Vicki Denhart.
Frankly, Vicki has helped out at great inconvenience to herself, and has done so out of the pure interest in doing what is best for the citizens of New Albany. We're lucky to have her and I, for one, would like to see a more charitable attitude toward Vicki and ALL local citizens who jump in and do a lot of work to make New Albany a better place to live and work instead of continue with the nasty back and forth we've all come to expect from the fluffers.
Also, comments about people "banging" other people in exchange for TIF funds, and the like, would, in my opinion be considered "bully pulpit" talk and are, I understand, not welcome on this blog, according to an administrator's post. Please be civil.
Here's a little more about President Truman's bankruptcy.
http://tinyurl.com/44o853h
Also some about U.S. Grant's, McKinley's and Thomas Jefferson's bankruptcies.
(Maybe now F.O.S. will stop misquoting the Declaration of Independence since apparently people who have financial difficulty cannot be worthy of anything good in public office.)
You know, 8:16, I'd take you at your word, except I know that if some Republican, say, Dave Matthews, declared bankruptcy, you'd have it all over the blog or would be quick to persecute him on the blog. Difference is, Matthews isn't in charge of keeping track of money. Garry is. You expect a bean counter of a fair-sized city to actually BE a bean counter, don't you?
Just askin'.
@ 8:12 PM
Spell her name right. V-I-C-K-I.
Also, I've never once, not ONCE, heard her claim to be a male professor.
Stop playing this childish game, won't you?
Wow! What a blog! Thought I'd check it out before going to bed. All is as usual. Randy Smith is hyper. Valla Ann is accusatory. Vicki Denhart is making sweeping statements. Jeff Gillenwater/Roger Baylor are as snarky as ever. Demands of proof, sex talk, talking out of both sides of your mouth...
Joe Citizen, where are you?
How would the average citizen know if the money mess had been referred to the Prosecutor by the DGA? You wouldn't know unless Henderson announces it. What's your problem?
Well, good morning blog friends! What's it gonna be today?
It wasn't much, 4:14 AM. They're all asleep.
Glad to hear that big John died. Couldn't happen to a better corrupt person then him. May you burn in hell, John!
Hmmmmm.....Well, yes, he's facing his Maker.
'Nuff said.
To 7:08
Shame on you, what if a member of his family saw this?
Can't say I knew him personally, but whether you liked him or not there is no reason for such ugliness.
So what is your input on the audit, shirley?
Yes, I agree with Shirley, 7:08. Whatever we may know or think we know of the lifetime activities of John Mattingly, the only One who can condemn him to hell is GOD!
Hey, Shirley, if Big John pulled a gun on you, (like he did me and so many others in this town) you might feel alittle different.
You right Shirley, you didn't know him.
Typo; you;re
I see Jeff Gahan held a fundraiser with the Englands.
My brother was an officer (LPD) and told me all about John. He was on the LPD I think a detective. He got caught with a warehouse full of stolen property (he owned the warehouse) and was given a choice of prison or retirement. Then he ended up buddies with Doug England.
Nuff said.
God rest his soul.
On a lighter note, I've just read the silliest thing I've ever seen in my life:
I'm really a....a....European.
And:
...I'll always be a European...
Now there are two completely clueless statements by one of the most typically rebellious American products I've ever known!
ROFLMAO
Shirley is mums on the audit. Scared to take a stands. Looks like she wouldnt be inclined to see that changes are made.
Gahan did what? Why? Lord, the fix must be in again.
Gahan is just trying to get some of the City's money back from England.
I heard the fundraiser didn't happen because of John passing away.
John was also involved with luther james and the feds and all of that mess. I'm wondering if the Courier will do an article on his past.
Who's going to be the muscle now for England's group?
Not likely that the C-J will do an article on Mattingly's past. He got away with whatever he did in recent years because they were all too slick to get caught. Don't know if they'll stay slick. As for the past, that was in the Courier years ago. Been said and done long ago.
Shirley has no idea what to say about the audit because she wants to get along with everyone and sing Kum Ba Yah while ignoring the red flags we can see all around us. She'll likely say nothing, but if she speaks of this at all, it'll be to say that we don't know, no proof, and that we must be careful. Blah, blah, blah.
The acknowledged European among us is not that moron. He wishes, but he is the most archetypal Midwest American boy-grown-curmudgeon I've ever met. He's a spoiled, whiner with a big mouth who's grown into a mean, hating, self-absorbed ball of toxicity.
@ 3:30
Amen. On all counts.
someone who has nothing to say except sing kum ba yah is not the type of person we need on the council. we need people with real leadership skills. silence just means they have nothing to bring to the table and are probably just running in hope of getting health insurance benefits. get a spine shirley and stand for something or you will fall for everything.
kum bye yah
Well, I'm this close to giving up on Shirley, Jeff, and everyone else around here. I'm sick of everyone else just giving up or giving in. I'm worn out. Just worn out. You were right to post that we should just walk away, KT.
Dont give up KT, except maybe on kum ba ya Shirley. Must keep the issues out there. It is when people just give up that things continue the same. We dont need more of the same or kum ba ya candidates.
I certainly hope Jeff Gahan doesn't give up on his strong stance to back the average Joe and to be able to work with ALL the public officials, not just England's pets. In fact, I hope he sticks to his guns and gets rid of 'em ALL.
Shirley will take the time to defend a dead man that she says she doesnt even know, but doesnt even take the time to defend the citizens who's money is not being accounted for properly.
Gahan is sticking with his base. Bye, Bye, Shane and Carl.
Go get a real job like the rest of us.
It is not that I am trying to avoid anyone.
I believe we need an independent audit, this is not anything new, I have said this before.
With John M out of the picture, how many of us feel Sanitation and the Street Department can be pulled back into Taxpayers realm?
Sure didn't know Mickey Thompson was his son. Are we now going to find out who owns the garbage company who takes our garbage at an extreme price?
The visitation was a literal who's who from all areas. Scary.
Shirley, why wont you address the audit? saying we need and independant audit is saying nothing at all about the results of the audit. How do you feel about it? Do you feel that managment should be held responsible? What changes do you want to see and ones you will advocate for? Please address our concerns if you really feel like you are the best once to represent us. Show some leadership and bring something to the table. Members of current council have said independent audit, so if that is all you can bring, we might as well keep them.
i remember when doug used to sell fur coats out of the back of his car
use your head----gahan is not going to do anything to divide the democratic party before the election. AFTER--carl-shane-rosenbarger-garry---ALL GONE
This is the classy stuff we can expect from the latest to file for mayor.
A recent blog entry.
http://www.freereinmedia.com/1/post/2011/04/attention-ashley-grace-fans.html
It takes a classy person to post a classy thing like that.
Moron.
@8:31 that was a recent blog post by a registered new albany mayoral candidate. whether you agree with him or not, voters should know who he is before the election.
Well, when I went to that site, porn pictures appeared on my computer and wouldn't come off until I shut everything down and went in by the back channels to delete the stinking virus it put on my computer.
Watch all websites. Know where you're going.
What about the Rustic Frog and all the uncollected Property taxes and Sewer bills of John Mattingly?
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